Vanyar: Just finished watching the Hobbit trailer three times...	2011-12-20 21:53:00 (GMT)
IT...IS..AWESOME.....ACK...THUD!!! *expire*
Conan: Goodness me,	2011-12-21 06:25:47 (GMT)
Some spoilerage going on in thar! Cheers
Vanyar: Conan m'lad....	2011-12-21 07:27:05 (GMT)
that is an understatement!  I love the scene with Gandalf on the hill with the sun coming up behind him as he thumps his staff down.  It HAS to be the "Dawn take you all and be stone to you!" troll scene.  I am VERY happy about the way this looks. ***contented sigh***
elanor : Hobbit Trailer	2011-12-21 09:33:03 (GMT)
OH GREAT GLORY AND TRUMPETS! I got CHILLS! Seriously, first time was the dwarf voiced song AAAHHHHHHHH and then Gollum's voice and RIng Theme. Good lord, it's such a thrill to know we will be visiting Middle Earth again! Whattaya think that snip with Galadriel and Gandalf - is that romance? Does Gandy have a crush? or perhaps she is encouraging him to go on? I'm gonna have to go watch it 6 more times! Yay! (then I'll come back and read the posts I missed)
Vanyar:  elanor  - Yes, watching the trailer was definitely ...	2011-12-22 08:46:01 (GMT)
... a Samwise "O great glory and splendour! And all my wishes have come true!" moment. As for Gandalf and Galadriel, I think we are seeing a moment of reassurance and compassion from the Lady of Light to the long-laboring Grey Pilgrim.  After all, she trusted him implicitly and wanted him to head the White Council but he refused....and they are both bearers of two of the three Elven rings of power....and they have known each other since before the Doom of the Noldor back in good old Valinor.  Romance? No.  Deep abiding love and respect....absolutely yes. Namarie, lass.
Vanyar: I have a bone to pick with Sir Peter....	2011-12-22 08:49:18 (GMT)
Bifur has an axe permanently stuck in his forehead....really?....really?  PJ just couldn't stay away from doing something way over the top that is just going to totally annoy serious fans?  I pray that image from the trailer is actually some strange braid with a huge bone or metal bar and not what it appears to be...an axe in his forehead.....arg!
Vanyar: Ahhh, the "Far Over the Misty Mountains" song was absolutely perfect:	2011-12-22 08:51:55 (GMT)
Far over the Misty Mountains cold, To dungeons deep and caverns old, We must away, ere break of day, To seek our pale enchanted gold. The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells, In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells. For ancient king and elvish lord There many a gleaming golden hoard They shaped and wrought, and light they caught, To hide in gems on hilt of sword. On silver necklaces they strung The flowering stars, on crowns they hung The dragon-fire, on twisted wire They meshed the light of moon and sun. Far over the Misty Mountains cold, To dungeons deep and caverns old, We must away, ere break of day, To claim our long-forgotten gold. Goblets they carved there for themselves, And harps of gold, where no man delves There lay they long, and many a song Was sung unheard by men or elves. The pines were roaring on the heights, The wind was moaning in the night, The fire was red, it flaming spread, The trees like torches blazed with light. The bells were ringing in the dale, And men looked up with faces pale. The dragon's ire, more fierce than fire, Laid low their towers and houses frail. The mountain smoked beneath the moon. The dwarves, they heard the tramp of doom. They fled the hall to dying fall Beneath his feet, beneath the moon. Far over the Misty Mountains grim, To dungeons deep and caverns dim, We must away, ere break of day, To win our harps and gold from him! The wind was on the withered heath, But in the forest stirred no leaf: There shadows lay be night or day, And dark things silent crept beneath. The wind came down from mountains cold, And like a tide it roared and rolled. The branches groaned, the forest moaned, And leaves were laid upon the mould. The wind went on from West to East; All movement in the forest ceased. But shrill and harsh across the marsh, Its whistling voices were released. The grasses hissed, their tassels bent, The reeds were rattling--on it went. O'er shaken pool under heavens cool, Where racing clouds were torn and rent. It passed the Lonely Mountain bare, And swept above the dragon's lair: There black and dark lay boulders stark, And flying smoke was in the air. It left the world and took its flight Over the wide seas of the night. The moon set sale upon the gale, And stars were fanned to leaping light. Under the Mountain dark and tall, The King has come unto his hall! His foe is dead, the Worm of Dread, And ever so his foes shall fall! The sword is sharp, the spear is long, The arrow swift, the Gate is strong. The heart is bold that looks on gold; The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong. The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells. On silver necklaces they strung The light of stars, on crowns they hung The dragon-fire, from twisted wire The melody of harps they wrung. The mountain throne once more is freed! O! Wandering folk, the summons heed! Come haste! Come haste! Across the waste! The king of freind and kin has need. Now call we over the mountains cold, 'Come back unto the caverns old!' Here at the gates the king awaits, His hands are rich with gems and gold. The king has come unto his hall Under the Mountain dark and tall. The Worm of Dread is slain and dead, And ever so our foes shall fall! Farewell we call to hearth and hall! Though wind may blow and rain may fall, We must away, ere break of day Far over the wood and mountain tall. To Rivendell, where Elves yet dwell In glades beneath the misty fell. Through moor and waste we ride in haste, And whither then we cannot tell. With foes ahead, behind us dread, Beneath the sky shall be our bed, Until at last our toil be passed, Our journey done, our errand sped. We must away! We must away! We ride before the break of day!
Conan: Merry christmas guys!	2011-12-24 09:02:29 (GMT)
At least where I am... Thought the trailer was excellent over all. Much food for thought involved, but the song, as listed by the Vanyar was perfect! TORN has a scene by scene discussion up of it now. Much food for thought indeed... Cheers, Conan
Skyway Moaters: Hail and well met Conan...	2011-12-25 12:19:07 (GMT)
How is Christmas down-under this year? How was (in general please) your 2011? I agree, much to like *and* ponder in that Hobbit trailer. How is everyone else out there? "Christmas Check In"? Anyone?...
Walrus: It's a festivus miracle!	2011-12-25 16:58:38 (GMT)
That I could remember my password to this place. Merry Very Hairy Barry and all that to everyone. Saw Tintin and the Hobbit trailer in 3D on Wednesday. Very nice. Tintin wasn't as uncanny valley as I thought it might be. Quite an entertaining little action movie. More Indiana Jones-ish than Crystal Skull, that's fer sure. The Hobbit looked very good, dinnit? Lots to ponder indeed. Dwarves don't look as weird in motion as they did in the studio stills, though frankly, the lack of beards is still irking some. Look at hipster culture, indie rock, Iron & Wine and Zack Galafianakis. Hell look at me: beards are in. Gandy and Galady flirting? Personally I'm hoping for an acknowledgement that they knew each other back in Valinor and that his Istari form is quite a bit more... worn-in than his maiar form. But then I tend to hope overmuch. More likely Saruman is being devious and Gandalf is losing hope and Galadriel is bucking up his spirits and reminding him that she wanted him to lead the council in the first place. Or it's a huge derailment and major screw-up from PJ. It really could go either way. Anyhoo, gotta go and get my Christmas Spirit. This time it's Johnny Walker Black. Happy Holidays!
Skyway Moaters: NOW, what do I smelll...	2011-12-26 10:42:12 (GMT)
Odobenus rosmarus???! With a beard? Hmm, Goatee? And, and... Johnny Walker... (what's the difference)...Black? And a hearty hail and well met to you as well good sirrah! Happy Merry Harry Chuck Berry etc. How was your 2011? I could tell a “riotous” tale if you have a minum... What'cha been up to brother?
Conan: Hey Moaters,	2011-12-28 08:02:10 (GMT)
Twas a fine christmas down here. A postively balmy 25 degrees celcius and quite reasonable humidity levels (usually a problem but not this year). There was plenty of food, drink, gifts etc and good company so all was well! Hope you had a great day (as with everyone else). Sounds like the Walrus did... Cheers, Conan
Sabster: A balmy 25 degrees, Conan? Sounds perfect to me, I think I might come by some day	2011-12-29 14:59:51 (GMT)
Hellohellohello, and how is everybody? I’m still swooning over the sonorous singing voice of a certain mill owner (and the good Mistress Elaine tells me that apparently he can dance, too - who'd have thunk?!). I am very, very happy with the trailer in general and with Thorin O. in particular. I cannot believe we will have to wait another two years before we will get to see what I am certain will be (SPOILER) the most swoonalicious reconciliation-on-deathbed scene since the demise of Boromir. As for Galadriel and Gandalf, I am sure there is a very innocent explanation: my guess is she’s saying something like “Gandy darling, if we cut off two centimeters here, you’ll be amazed by how much more volume your hair has”.
Walrus: Alas, the Johnny Walker Black never did materialize	2011-12-30 00:27:10 (GMT)
I mean, I bought it for my brutha 'Dr. Octopus Q. Mortsleam', but we never quite got around to it on Xmas day, being occupied with Johnny's cousin Jim Beam, and the Kinks Remastered CDs, and a CD of fake Beatles covers of Christmas songs called 'The Fab Four Christmas.' To answer Skyway's sartorial inquiries: I at one time possessed 'Farmamirey Stubble' which eventually graduated to a full-on 'Elessarey Beard,' though for this past Halloween I trimmed it down to a 'Steampunk Han Solo Handlebar Moustache' and am now back to about 'Stridery grizzle' levels. I maintain that PJ was remiss in accepting the contemporary Indie cultures idolization of the mangy long-ass beard. In a quick summation: 2011 was much better than 2009 and 2010. I now have a house and a dog. I've been working for a petty, small-minded, ignorant tyrant for the past 18 months that makes me churn out endless e-mail spam, true, but it's much better than the 11 months I spent working as a customer service rep for a utility company. I repeat: your friend the Walrus, known primarily for his sparkling interpersonal demeanor, spent much of 2010 in the complaints department of a utility company. Let's let that soak in for a minute. (I just like helping people.) But enough about me: we have Hobbity goodness of which to speak. And speak we shall! Some people online and elsewhere have commented the look of the Hobbit veers to the overly colorful. In particular, they point to Rivendell and the near-pastel light that shows through the windows. I say it's a good way to lighten the mood in what is called the 'charming prelude' to the LOTR proper. Some parts of the Hobbit trailer actually struck me as *too* serious and LOTR-like, particularly the conversations between Gandalf and Thorin i.e. "I can't guarantee his safety" and Gandalf and Bilbo i.e. "Can you promise I'll make it back?" But I have to chalk it up to the inevitable clash of tone between the two tales. Hopefully the seriousness will only be an undercurrent in the first film, and won't bubble over until the Big Battles in the second film. Sabs! Indeed, Galady just wants to trim his locks a bit, and maybe use some conditioner! Anyone go to AICN anymore? Jeebus Krist, what a pit of filth. *SO MUCH* negativity and abuse nowadays. A whole new generation of teenagers acting big and talking dirty when their parents aren't watching, shitting on anything anyone may actually enjoy. I myself actually lost my old login in the changeover to the new site. I'm now called MrBoinfoint (Bruce Lee's mangled version of Mister Braithwaite from 'Enter the Dragon'), and barely, if ever, wallow in the muck to post. Happy New Year to one and all!
Miami Mofo: Of AICN and the Trailer	2011-12-30 06:52:29 (GMT)
Unfortunately, I find myself in total agreement with WalMort (that's what you get when you cross a Walrus with a Mortsleam) regarding how awful AICN has become. In the pre Club Angband days I used to go there for three basic reasons -- 1) to talk about LotR and all things Tolkien with you guys 2) to read what Harry had to say, particularly his DVD column 3) to read what Moriarty had to say, particularly in his reviews Now, sadly, all three reasons have vanished.  We have our own Club (thank Arda), Harry's weekly DVD column seems to be posted only once a month and Moriarty (Drew McWeeny) has gone to greener pastures by writing and posting his blog over at HitFlix.  Was there some sort of disagreement between Harry and Moriarty that caused him to leave?  LotR info aside, Moriarty's columns were, in actuality, the only thing at AICN worth reading.  Unless, of course, someone felt the need to have a laugh at Harry's atrociously bad use of the English language. OK, now onto this trailer with Martin Freeman ... Guide to Middle Earth WOW -- I am stunned, stunned I say, with how many changes that P.J. et. al. have made to Tolkien's little book! I've got no problem with the fact that Sam Rockwell and Zooey Deschanel have replaced Viggo and Liv in the Aragorn/Arwen backstory.  Nor do I have a problem that Gandalf will now be played by Mos Def, something that was obviously done to counteract all that "Tolkien was a racist" bullshit.  Nor do I have a problem that when Smeagol transforms into Gollum, that Gollum ends up looking like a robot with a huge head shaped like a basketball on steroids. No, my real problem with this trailer is that at the 48 second mark, we can clearly see that the One Ring is on Gandalf's THUMB!!!!!!!!! I can easily accept the fact that Gandalf will now wear the ring, but on his thumb???  That's what I'm having a tough time accepting. Wait, what's that you say?  Oh, I see.  So it's necessary that the one ring be worn on the thumb in order to properly hitchhike through M.E., eh?  Well if that's the case, so be it.  Personally, I think that P.J.'s been smoking a bit too much leaf from the Southfarthing.  Not that that's a bad thing, mind you -- I like the fact that he's put a little weight back on. Anyway, I guess I'll leave you now with this sneak peak of one song from the soundtrack of this film ... SweetHH Hope y'all have a happy and a healthy New Year.
Sabster: Great, thanks a lot, Miami	2011-12-31 03:20:55 (GMT)
I am now going to spend the rest of 2011 with 'So long and thank you for all the fishesses' sung by Gollum in my head... Happy New Year to all you lovely Angbanders!!!
Miami Mofo: I'm sure glad that Moaters and I weren't sitting next to this guy at FedEx Field!	2012-01-01 13:43:25 (GMT)
First off, sorry about that Sabs.  You should know however that "So Long and Thank You For All The Fishesses" was the theme song for the 2011 Miami Dolphins football team.  It was especially poignant back in October when they were a dreadful 0-7. Now, regarding my subject line -- in addition to the first Hobbit film, 2012 shall also bring us a new Springsteen album along with a tour.  It sure will be weird seeing The Boss and The E Street Band without the Big Man on the saxophone, that's for sure.  Tickets for the European leg of the tour have already gone on sale and most locations have sold out.  The sale of tickets for the U.S. and other locations will be announced shortly.  Don't be surprised if he ventures Downunder, Conan. The following vid is an example of the difficulty of getting good seats to one of Bruce's concerts.  You have no idea how happy I am that Moaters and I did not have to sit in the same section with this guy when we saw Bruce in our nation's capital all those years ago. The Difficulty of Getting Springsteen Tickets How someone can dream up something like this vid is beyond me.  Oh well, at least I'm able to see the humor behind it.  It's definitely good for a laugh.
morGoth: Happy New Year one and all...	2012-01-04 11:51:40 (GMT)
...though Johnny Walker Black is indeed a delight, the bottles of Atomic Robo brand slivovitz and George Dickel #12 were the tickets this holiday season. Of course, I had to mix up a fresh Bilbo Baggins (4 parts Cointreau + 6 parts pisco) when I finally got around to watching the Hobbit trailer. I was totally bummed out when I did NOT see the trailer in front of Tintin! Lucky for you Walrus m'lad as our local cineplex didn't seem to run it. Tha's what I get for not calling ahead I s'pose. Anyhoo, no prob's as I've viddied it numerous times thanks to all the internets! Likes: LOOKS FANTASTIC! Agree 100% that the Dwarves look less dorky when they're in motion. As we suspected ,this is NOT going to bee the loverly little children's book we all love but rather a true prequel to the movies. And let me be one of those Freeman doubters who is now sold. "I am a Baggins of Bag End!"...heh, indeed. All we need now is a decent performance and I'll take back all my "mumping" comments. Really, I will! Also a high cool factor when he walked by the shards of Narsil in Rivendell. Neat touch PJ and I hope there will be many, many more. Noldor cavalry...how cool is that?!! Galadriel and Gandalf...looks like old friends having a heartfelt talk and nothing more...c'mon, clean it up all you pervy Hobbit fanciers {[:^) It was the song that sold me and I thought it was Viggo again when I first heard it. Liked how solemn all the Dwarves appeared during it and was that a realization on their faces that, at last, they WERE going to seek their long forgotten gold? Excellent and I hope we get more of it (no freakin' gobling singing though...PLEASE!!). Dislikes: Gotta agree with Vanyar about the stupid, stupid looking Bifur. C'mon PJ, really? REALLY? In fact, I still don't care for most of the goofier looking Dwarves...ah well, I'm already over it. Thorin looked a little too at ease on that horse. A quibble, for sure. Sorry, those are all the dislikes I can muster. Color me officially excited again! As for AICN, yeah, what's the point anymore unless one likes to argue with low IQ fence-post. I do browse, occasionally, just to see how inane the TB's have become and I noticed Mr. Boinfoint and wondered who it might be, of old. Heh, I noticed a post by one "pallando" along with an invite from  elanor  to come join us again. morGoth is gone from AICN forever and is shut behind the Door of Night. Good riddance I sez! Snaga me Bucko...how about another round of slivo?
morGoth: Let me get this straight...	2012-01-04 11:59:55 (GMT)
...you do or do not like the underlying seriousness? My preference is that it stays that way (serious)...otherwise, it will come off as a bit silly. My fear is that is what PJ WILL do...kiddyfy it so that it's dumbed down FOR children. Y'know, farting, belching (wow, never saw  the fat guy busting a chair bit before!) and other low-brow attempts at "humor." Lawks, would PJ make the same mistake as Tolkien hisself?
Miami Mofo: Did the Blue Meanie, oops, I mean the Blue Wizard really post???	2012-01-04 17:22:20 (GMT)
I'm assuming that that post was in the AICN talkback for The Hobbit trailer. Unfortunately for me, I am totally unable to open that article -- whenever I try to the page that the trailer is on does not completely download.  All I see is a little message on the bottom which reads, "Downloading etc. etc."  But it never does!!!  Thus I am unable to neither watch the trailer nor read any of the talkbacks. That being said, thanks for the info that Pallando did post over at AICN, morGy.  It's nice to know that he did not completely vanish off the face of the Earth, or Middle Earth as the case may be. Now all we gotta do is find out where irritable disappeared to.
morGoth: Dang, we just can't have that Miami!	2012-01-05 15:34:38 (GMT)
Try this mellon... Hobbity Goodness Trailer Can you get into any of Quint's set reports? Much better written than Harry's of old. Walp, I guess that was our ol' Blue Ninny Wiz over at AICN 'cuz who else would come up with that moniker? As for brother irritable, I've seen him post occasionally at AICN so I know he's still alive. Maybe he got tired of my smelly non-existent feet!
Miami Mofo: My problems are only with AICN's Hobbit trailer, morG	2012-01-05 18:08:34 (GMT)
For some unknown reason, the only thing I'm unable to open at AICN is the Hobbit trailer.  I've got no problem reading anything else, thus I have been keeping up with Quint's set reports, which I agree are much better than anything that Harry has ever written. Thanks for the info that you've seen irritable post over at AICN, morG.  I wonder why he and Pallando have abandoned us.  Hmm, perhaps they took offense to the fact that I kept charging my drinks to their Club Angband bar tabs. Btw, did the Blue Wizard post as Pallando Blue or just Pallando?  If it's the latter, perhaps it wasn't him at all.  Nah, that doesn't make sense.  I mean, who else would bother to take that name?  Oh yeah, I've tried several additional times to open that page at AICN but I still get that darned "Downloading picture" message.  Weird that it only happens at The Hobbit trailer page and nowhere else.
Walrus: Extras casting for the Hobbit!	2012-01-23 20:58:31 (GMT)
Must be over 5'9", or under 5'4", have huge biceps or a face with "character." Also live and work in New Zealand. Sometimes it sucks being extra-medium.
Skyway Moaters: Sometimes it sucks being in this hemisphere Mortay...	2012-01-24 16:21:45 (GMT)
How you keeping bro? I mus apologize for the sorry state of the club these days. I reckon we've all gotten to be such old farts that we can't muster the same enthusiasm for The Hobbit as we did for LOTR, 12 (can you believe it), Ah say: 12 YEARS AGO?!) Either that or a combination of enormous piles of Morgul Cricket casings and my foot odor has caused everyone to r-u-n-n-o-f-t...
morGoth: Casting for the Great Goblins gaurd or "real" Dwarves?	2012-01-26 11:33:32 (GMT)
Heh...that's an odd range I'm thinking. But, yeah, would be very, very cool to be cast as fifth Dwarf following Dain Ironfoot up the slope to take on Azog. O'eck, just to be in the pile of dead goblins around Azog's feet! Hey, who you callin' an old fart Moaters? Oh yeah, gues that includes me since I hit the gurt big six-oh this year. Mope and mutter...
morGoth: Great heavens!	2012-02-02 19:54:24 (GMT)
I go visit my brother at Taniquetil for a few days and the place gets shut down! So, anybody check out the Lego LotR set? Of course they did Lego-las..nyuk, nyuk
Snaga-ape: Boss got rocks in head as the usual!	2012-02-03 11:29:59 (GMT)
Snaga-ape give linky to funny Lego figgers: Kute LotR Figgers Snaga-ape not sure why ugly Gollum picked over he cause all know how precious and fuzzy Snaga-ape be. Make Gollum look like slag-fly maggot on bad hair daybut he only poor snaga and what snaga know?.
Snaga-ape: Surface monkey Conan!	2012-02-03 11:48:57 (GMT)
Look out for all flood water in your land. Where big drought go?
Miami Mofo: Let's all go to Lego Land!!!!!!!!!	2012-02-03 15:54:11 (GMT)
Time to visit the Dragon, I say ... Nu? So where's Smaug? Well it's nice to see this place up and running.  Anybody know what happened? You'll get no pity from me regarding turning the big six-oh, morGy.  Happened to me back in December -- on the tenth anniversary of the day LotR:FotR opened to be exact.  I wasn't too happy about it, let me tell you!  And now this Lego business makes it worse. You see, for the big five-oh my nephew gave me the Merry & Pippin with a Moria Orc Battle Action Figures.  When he did so, he told me to keep it in its original box, otherwise it would lose value.  Following such sound financial advise sounded like a good idea, so I did exactly that.  Thus there it sits on a bookshelf in my bedroom -- unopened and untouched for the ten years I've owned it. And now I find that there are LotR Lego figures.  A month and a half too late!  Had I known that they were available, I would've firmly requested (all right, demanded) that my nephew give me one of those Lego figures for my 60th. The fact that this did not happen leads me to quote Dr. Smith from the old TV show, 'Lost In Space' -- "Oh the pain, the pain."
Conan: Hey morG,	2012-02-04 08:35:14 (GMT)
Ya, we've got some water here in Australia! Driest continent on earth my foot! 2 summers in a row has been wet as all get out... Ah well, at least the Hobbit looks good this year (not to mention a veritable onslaught of other top shelf film fare) and all that water, gives one plenty of time for movie watchin... Good to see the Club back up and running anyway! Cheers, Conan!